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I currently own a small business. We use an MS Exchange hosting service.
We have perhaps become spoiled by always having our email on each device (desktop, laptop, iphone, etc.) and in sync. We would like to purchase a Mac Mini Server and host our own email, but are being told by our technical consultant that the Mail hosting capabilities of OS X 10.6 will not provide any syncing, and that POP is 'crummy at best and IMAP is not a good option for business as browser email is clumsy'. He said, if you lose the device the mail is on (i.e. Iphone), the mail is gone. He also said it is difficult to track whether you replied to an email - meaning, you might have replied to an email on your iphone, but when you get to work on Monday, you can't remember whether you did or not because your sent folder won't sync. We need our mail to be stored locally on whatever device and the server (just in case a hard drive crashes, lost iphone, whatever). We need our email to be in Sync.
Does this mean we are stuck with Exchange? Is what he is saying true?
Thanks in advance! Even though Camelot may seem a bit abrasive, he's right. The IMAP setup really is the way to go and it does work extremely well in OS X. It's so common to see veteran IT guys get stuck into one mindset as far as what works best and they don't want to consider things that are new.
Teachers are the same way! I once talked to an education sales guy at a mac store that said 'The most frustrating thing about teachers is that so many of them are unwilling to learn!'
What I suggest you do, Michael, is have a sit down with your tech guy and suggest that set up a new mac server and spend some time with it. Also (and I don't think it's unfair to say, with you being the employer) I suggest that you tell him to keep an open mind. If his dislikes are based on user interface problems that he can't get over then well there's nothing you can do. If his dislikes can be proven problems that can't be fixed with help from communities like this one, then he's right and you shouldn't pick an OS X server.
I'm happy to say that I've been running a Mac Mail server since 10.4 and it's fine! I'll give your tech guy one bone here. OS X's webmail interface.! But that's why we have mail or thunderbird or entourage! Is your 'technical consultant' employed by Microsoft, by any chance, because it's clear he has little or no understanding of how non-Microsoft Exchange mail services work. Told by our technical consultant that the Mail hosting capabilities of OS X 10.6 will not provide any syncing Wrong. Certainly it's possible to screw up and get your mail out of sync, but only if you try really hard.
And that POP is 'crummy at best hmm, interesting. I wonder if that's why POP has been around for so long, and continues to be the most popular format for mail clients. Not at all, but hardly 'crummy'. And IMAP is not a good option for business as browser email is clumsy' Now it's clear the 'consultant' is an idiot. He doesnt' even know what IMAP is and thinks it's webmail? Run away from him. Would I rely on web mail?
No (with the possible exception of Gmail or me.com, both of which make an admirable web interface to their mail systems), but IMAP is not webmail, even if some webmail systems use IMAP to access the user's mailbox. He said, if you lose the device the mail is on (i.e. Iphone), the mail is gone.
Fire this idiot. He also said it is difficult to track whether you replied to an email OMG, that's the first thing he's said so far that has any basis in reality. We need our mail to be stored locally on whatever device and the server (just in case a hard drive crashes, lost iphone, whatever).
We need our email to be in Sync. Does this mean we are stuck with Exchange? IMAP will do this, although there may be some caveats. Mail.app, for example, doesn't store drafts or sent messages on the server by default - you'll have to change the client preferences to make this happen (and, therefore, for other clients to see which messages have been replied to. You may need to look at the various mail clients you're using to make sure they all have similar configuration options. Well, POP is kinda crufty. IMAP or IMAP via SSL is usually the better choice, where that's available.
Based on your requirements for sharing, you'll simply have all of the mail kept in the server, and would not configure the mail clients to download mail to local storage (except for local caching). In addition to not creating local folders and stores on the clients, web mail can be one of the ways that folks do that; how folks can keep all of the messages on the central server. This is akin to how Microsoft Exchange works with the Microsoft Outlook clients. But yes, this consultant does not appear to be familiar with this topic area.
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So guys, it sounds like I want to configure the Mac Mini Server running Snow Leopard Server for IMAP via SSL. It sounds like I need to add some configuration on the client mail apps to make sure sent email messages are saved back on the server. How do I do this with Mac Mail? The plan is to move the entire company to Macs. Our old IBM Laptops have died a slow death and I have had it with Windows. What a bloated piece of crap.
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I am an avid Mac user at home - and have been since the 90's.but was always forced - kicking and screaming - to buy Windows based PC's due to specific apps we use. Well, thankfully, no more. Our industry has developed several excellent Mac Apps. For productivity purposes, the standard Mac apps are robust and so is iWorks.
I guess I'm just confused a little as to how it will all work. I currently use Outlook via a hosted Exchange network and have all my email constantly syncing between my MacBook Pro at work, iMac at home and my iPhone and iPad. I guess I just don't want to lose that 'syncing' as my job is email intensive - far too email intensive if I'm being honest.none the less, it's a necessary evil to keep everything in Sync and I HOPE I won't lose this as I like the thought of decreasing our hosting costs. I've taken it as a mission to get rid of anything and everything that smells or looks like Windows. We are migrating to QuickBooks Online right now as an example. Sorry for the long winded commentary and I appreciate all the help. I apologize for the stupid questions and I hope I can figure this all out.because it sounds like my 'consultant' won't be much help!
Even though Camelot may seem a bit abrasive, he's right. The IMAP setup really is the way to go and it does work extremely well in OS X. It's so common to see veteran IT guys get stuck into one mindset as far as what works best and they don't want to consider things that are new. Teachers are the same way! I once talked to an education sales guy at a mac store that said 'The most frustrating thing about teachers is that so many of them are unwilling to learn!'
What I suggest you do, Michael, is have a sit down with your tech guy and suggest that set up a new mac server and spend some time with it. Also (and I don't think it's unfair to say, with you being the employer) I suggest that you tell him to keep an open mind. If his dislikes are based on user interface problems that he can't get over then well there's nothing you can do. If his dislikes can be proven problems that can't be fixed with help from communities like this one, then he's right and you shouldn't pick an OS X server.
I'm happy to say that I've been running a Mac Mail server since 10.4 and it's fine! I'll give your tech guy one bone here. OS X's webmail interface.! But that's why we have mail or thunderbird or entourage!
Gracoat - I agree. Technology is always evolving and there are a lot of people who assume things have not changed in 5 or 10 years. One function that is quite critical to us, is the ability to create a calendar event/invite (from iCal I assume) with an attachment (Word Doc), send it to someone outside our company who is likely using Outlook for Windows and have them EASILY add it to their calendar (along with the attachment).
I've been testing things from iCal and it's quite wonky at best. Any thoughts around this issue? Will we be forced to buy Outlook 2011 for Mac to achieve this with our Outlook for Windows Customers? I sure hope not! Apple Footer. This site contains user submitted content, comments and opinions and is for informational purposes only.
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